232 – Managing Vicarious Trauma
The REBT Model of Counselling - What to Do When a Client Asks You a Question
In Episode 232 of the Counselling Tutor Podcast, your hosts Rory Lees-Oakes and Ken Kelly are back with this week’s three topics:
- In ‘Counselling Foundations’ we look at Albert Ellis’ REBT model.
- Then in ‘Focus on Self’ we think about what to do when a client asks us a question.
- And finally in ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Erene Hadjiioannou on the impact and ways of managing vicarious trauma.
Albert Ellis’ REBT Model [starts at 02:13 mins]
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In this section, Rory and Ken discuss Rational Emotive Behavioural Therapy (REBT).
The key points of this section include:
- REBT is all about challenging irrational belief.
- How we think effects how we feel, how we feel effects how behave, then how we behave effects how we live our lives.
- If you can change your thoughts, you can change the consequences.
- It’s not what happens that effects our emotions, it’s how we react.
- ABCDE model – Action, Belief, Consequence, Dispute, Effect.
- Puts thinking at the top of the chain – rational over irrational.
- Have a think about the difference between thinking and feeling.
What to Do When a Client Asks You a Question [starts at 24:33 mins]
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Knowing what to do when a client asks you a question can be difficult, and in this section, Rory and Ken discuss how they might navigate this.
The main points of this section are as follows:
- Putting the question back to the client is an option, but this isn’t always appropriate.
- Be careful and think whether the client is looking to you to solve their problem for them.
- Alternatively, your client may simply be looking for more information – in this case, your answer is likely to benefit them.
- Whether or not you choose to answer personal questions is dependent on your own boundaries and self-disclosure – consider whether answering these questions will help or hinder the therapeutic relationship.
Managing Vicarious Trauma [starts at 40:25 mins]
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In this week’s ‘Practice Matters’, Rory speaks with Erene Hadjiioannou about the impacts of vicarious trauma and ways of managing it.
The key points of this discussion include:
- Repeatedly hearing clients’ accounts of trauma may eventually have an impact on your own wellbeing, or trigger your own past trauma.
- Some impacts of vicarious trauma might be:
- Trouble regulating your moods.
- Feeling over-stimulated, agitated, irritated, panicked and/or anxious.
- However, there are ways of managing vicarious trauma:
- Make sure you aren’t seeing trauma patient after trauma patient – schedule them appropriately and don’t take on too many.
- Make sure you have respite.
- Be conscious of your own condition – recognise when it’s becoming too much.
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Rational Emotive Behavioural Therapy (REBT)